# 20th Anniversary celebration with typographers and lettering artists Marian Bantjes, Oded Ezer, Jessica Hische, Tobias Frere-Jones, Matthew Carter, and Kris Holmes

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Podcast: [Design Matters with Debbie Millman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-415306)
Published: 2025-12-15T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In celebration of the 20th anniversary of Design Matters , Debbie Millman shares excerpts from interviews with typographers and lettering artists Marian Bantjes, Oded Ezer, Jessica Hische, Tobias Frere-Jones, Matthew Carter, and Kris Holmes, reflecting on legibility and expression, how letters behave, the discipline of refinement, and how type has evolved from hand-crafted processes to the digital tools we use today. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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