# Need a Chicken. Got a Chicken: Why Human-Centered Design Is More Complex Than It Looks

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Podcast: [Design-Build Delivers](https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-build-delivers-227671)
Published: 2025-09-30T17:00:00+00:00
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Have thoughts? Text us! How do you bring empathy, listening and iteration into projects built for real people? In this episode of the Design-Build Delivers Podcast, Erin Looney talks with Deb Sheehan and Susan O’Connell about the realities, challenges, and opportunities of applying Human-Centered Design within design-build delivery. Expect stories from healthcare, higher ed, and civic projects where user feedback, prototyping, and adaptability shape outcomes. Guests: Deb Sheehan, ACHE, LEED ...

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