# Pope vs. Dope | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Podcast: [DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375)
Published: 2026-04-17T14:26:38+00:00
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## Resource

Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM Eastern time. Today we discuss: • Pope Leo XIV says the world is being “ravaged by a handful of tyrants” with nothing for “healing, education and restoration.” “Woe to those who manipulate religion and the very name of God for their own military, economic and political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and filth ,” Leo said, presumably about Trump and Netanyahu . • Progressive Democrat Analilia Mejia won a special election in New Jersey’s 11th District, by a landslide, allowing Democrats to further narrow Republicans’ razor-thin majority in the House to 217-214. AIPAC had interfered in the primary by going after incumbent Tom Malinowski, a self-described Zionist, because he wanted conditions on aid to Israel. • House conservatives, concerned that warrantless government surveillance of foreign individuals could sweep up data on Americans, shot down an 18-month extension Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act . They have 10 days to talk. • Disgruntled employee Chamel Abdulkarim, 29, of Highland, California, is accused of causing $500 million in damage by setting an April 7 fire that destroyed a 1.2 million-square-foot Kimberly-Clark distribution center in Ontario. Abdulkarim, who worked through a third-party logistics provider, filmed himself setting pallets of paper goods ablaze, says the DOJ. “If you’re not going to pay us enough to [expletive] live… at least pay us enough not to do this,” he allegedly says. “I just cost these [expletive] billions,” he texted. “ Luigi popped that mutherf---er ,” Abdulkarim said in a call, “a lot of people are going to understand.” JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE https://rumble.com/c/DeProg…

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