# Does Israel Own Trump or Does Trump Own Israel?

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Podcast: [DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas-7404375)
Published: 2026-08-26T20:09:13+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/deprogramshow/3098815
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## Resource

Robby West and Jamarl Thomas host a Q&A-style “DeProgram” episode without Ted Rall. They discuss technical issues with Rumble, Trump’s alleged ownership by Israeli interests due to paid legal bills and lawfare, comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s email scandal, America First immigration policies favoring mass deportations, government data manipulation, institutional collapse risks, interfaith cultural differences in Islam and Christianity, and Nick Fuentes as a hypocritical figure. Audience questions cover marriage, Roman mythology of Pluto, and public pain thresholds for political pushback.

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