# Who is Responsible for the Conflict Between Security and Developers?

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Podcast: [Defense in Depth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616)
Published: 2026-03-19T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

All links and images can be found on CISO Series . Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Joining is their sponsored guest, Matt Brown , solutions architect, Endor Labs . In this episode: The development disconnect Functionality first, security second The incentive problem Speed as the common ground A huge thanks to our sponsor, Endor Labs Discover how AI coding agents are reshaping software supply chain risk in the State of Dependency Management. Original research from Endor Labs shows 49% of dependency versions have known vulnerabilities (and that 34% don't actually exist). Get the report to see how "shadow AI" is reshaping attack surfaces. Learn more at www.endorlabs.com .

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