# Should You Use Native or 3rd Party Cloud Management Tools? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/should-you-use-native-or-3rd-party-cloud-management-tools Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/should-you-use-native-or-3rd-party-cloud-management-tools.md Podcast: [Defense in Depth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616) Published: 2026-04-16T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://defenseindepth.libsyn.com/should-you-use-native-or-3rd-party-cloud-management-tools Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/defenseindepth/Defense_in_Depth_04-16-26.mp3?dest-id=1020683 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defense-in-depth-427616/episodes/should-you-use-native-or-3rd-party-cloud-management-tools Duration seconds: 1701 ## Resource Should You Use Native or 3rd Party Cloud Management Tools? All links and images can be found on CISO Series . Check out this post from Steve Zalewski for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Edward Contreras , senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank . Joining us is their sponsored guest, Gal Ordo , co-founder and CPO, Native . In this episode: More tools, more problems A gap in design Catching what slips through Competence over complexity A huge thanks to our sponsor, Native Security Native makes secure-by-design inherent to how the cloud operates. It's the control plane for built-in cloud security, unifying and governing native controls, so security intent is defined once and applied consistently across providers. Learn more at native.security . ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defense-in-depth-427616/episodes/should-you-use-native-or-3rd-party-cloud-management-tools/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/should-you-use-native-or-3rd-party-cloud-management-tools.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.