# How Should CISOs Talk to the Business

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Podcast: [Defense in Depth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616)
Published: 2025-12-18T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Binoy Koonammavu of Secusy AI for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Edward Contreras , senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank . Joining them is best-selling cybersecurity author Peter Gregory. His upcoming study guide on AI governance can be pre-ordered here . In this episode: Speaking the language of leadership Beyond translation: the trust factor Making risk tangible When translation isn't enough Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker makes Zero Trust practical. With Default Deny, Ringfencing, and Elevation Control, CISOs get real control that's easy to manage and built to scale. Stop threats before they execute and reduce operational noise without adding complexity. See how simple prevention can be at ThreatLocker.com/CISO .

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