# CISOs Buy For Selfish and Politically Risk-Averse Reasons (Not Because Your Product is the Best) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/cisos-buy-for-selfish-and-politically-risk-averse-reasons-not-because-your-product-is-the-best Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/cisos-buy-for-selfish-and-politically-risk-averse-reasons-not-because-your-product-is-the-best.md Podcast: [Defense in Depth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616) Published: 2026-06-11T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://defenseindepth.libsyn.com/cisos-buy-for-selfish-and-politically-risk-averse-reasons-not-because-your-product-is-the-best Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/defenseindepth/Defense_in_Depth_06-11-26.mp3?dest-id=1020683 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defense-in-depth-427616/episodes/cisos-buy-for-selfish-and-politically-risk-averse-reasons-not-because-your-product-is-the-best Duration seconds: 1881 ## Resource All links and images can be found on CISO Series Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Howard Holton , CEO, GigaOm . Joining is Tyler King , senior director - threat operations and response, Sinclair . In this episode: Career insurance In the trenches together Who are you actually selling to? Common sense, uncommon in sales A huge thanks to our sponsor, Material Security Legacy email security only watches the door. Material protects your entire cloud workspace—email, files, and accounts—as one ecosystem. It's more coverage for less than the cost of a legacy SEG. One price, no surprises: just security that covers the whole surface area. Learn more at material.security . ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/defense-in-depth-427616/episodes/cisos-buy-for-selfish-and-politically-risk-averse-reasons-not-because-your-product-is-the-best/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616/cisos-buy-for-selfish-and-politically-risk-averse-reasons-not-because-your-product-is-the-best.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.