# Breaking the Reactive Cycle of Cybersecurity

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Podcast: [Defense in Depth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-in-depth-427616)
Published: 2026-05-07T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark , the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Joining us is our sponsored guest, Rob Allen. In this episode: The vulnerable stack Changing the structural economics Change the terrain The cost-benefit equation A huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker makes Zero Trust practical. With Default Deny, Ringfencing, and Elevation Control, CISOs get real control that's easy to manage and built to scale. Stop threats before they execute and reduce operational noise without adding complexity. See how simple prevention can be at ThreatLocker.com/CISO .

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