# Defense & Aerospace Daily Podcast [Jun 17, ’26] Franz-Stefan Gady on Why It's so Hard to Judge Progress or Advantage in Modern Conflict

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Podcast: [Defense & Aerospace Report](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-aerospace-report-809504)
Published: 2026-06-17T15:06:39+00:00
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## Resource

On this Land Warfare episode, sponsored by American Rheinmetall, Franz-Stefan Gady, a defense analyst and consultant in Vienna who is also an adjunct fellow with Center for a New American Security think tank and author of several books including his newest, “Surprise Attack: When War Comes to Us” available in German and “How the United States Would Fight China,” joins Defense & Aerospace Report Editor Vago Muradian to discuss the latest on the Ukraine war; why it’s hard to judge progress or advantage in the conflict; lessons European powers should be learning from the conflict as they seek to bolster their land forces; how the war will change the design land vehicles and how they are employed in concert with unmanned air capabilities; why Russia remains a threat to Europe despite the bloodying it’s taken in Ukraine; and the applicability of Ukraine lessons to the Indo-Pacific;

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