# Defense & Aerospace Air Power Podcast [May 07, 26] Season 4 E15: Numbers Matter

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Podcast: [Defense & Aerospace Report](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-aerospace-report-809504)
Published: 2026-05-07T11:12:37+00:00
Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/defaeroreport/defense-aerospace-605686630
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## Resource

Among the many lessons of Ukraine and the Iran war is the role of small, distributed air and missile defenses, whether using -- or defending against -- missiles or drones. Dr. Stacie Pettyjohn, Director of the Defense Program at the Center for a New American Security, details how effective small weapons can be, whether massed drones could undermine U.S. operational concepts, the implications of using big weapons to counter little ones, and many more insights. Plus the week’s airpower headlines. Powered by GE Aerospace!

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