# DEFAERO Strategy Series [Jun 25, 26] Former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall

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Podcast: [Defense & Aerospace Report](https://stenobird.com/podcast/defense-aerospace-report-809504)
Published: 2026-06-25T19:54:01+00:00
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## Resource

On today’s Strategy Series program, sponsored by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall joins Defense & Aerospace Report Editor Vago Muradian to discuss his new book — “Lethal Autonomy: The Future of Warfare Whether We Like It or Not” — how the book differs from his earlier report on the future of war for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency; how warfare across air, land, sea, space and cyber are changing; the culture change needed within the military services as change makes existing platforms obsolete; focusing more on the “survivability” problem, rather than “lethality”; role of humans on an increasingly autonomous battlefield; getting on the right side of the cost imposition curve; and how US forces would fare against China if they drained their precision strike and air defense weapons stocks against Iran.

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