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Can people still change their minds about religion? | Dee Allsop
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- Defending Ideas
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- Jan 13, 2026
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- 2685
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Summary
Nearly one in three Americans now say they have no religious affiliation — but that doesn't mean they've rejected religion outright. On this episode of Defending Ideas , Nic Dunn talks with AEI Senior Fellow and Sutherland Institute Visiting Scholar Sam Abrams , Sutherland's Bill Duncan , and Dee Allsop from Heart+Mind Strategies to explore groundbreaking new survey data on America's "religious nones." The findings challenge common assumptions: when people are exposed to clear, factual information about religion's civic contributions, attitudes shift — sometimes dramatically. What does this mean for religious freedom, persuasion, and the future role of faith in public life? And how should leaders talk about religion in a secular age? This conversation offers a hopeful roadmap for principled persuasion in a polarized world. Show notes: Talking about Religion in a Secular Age: How Religious "Nones" Perceive the Value of Religion Defending Ideas is a weekly podcast produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show, we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense conservatism, making you a better champion of sound ideas. Visit defendingideas.org.