# #0408  –  Presilience: A Leadership Framework for Thriving in Crisis and Uncertainty with Dr. Gavriel Schneider

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Podcast: [Deep Leadership](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deep-leadership-787757)
Published: 2025-12-21T15:01:00+00:00
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Presilience: A Leadership Framework for Thriving in Crisis and Uncertainty with Dr. Gavriel Schneider In today’s volatile and uncertain world, resilience is no longer enough. Leaders must learn how to thrive before a crisis hits. In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by Dr. Gavriel Schneider, an internationally recognized expert in security, risk intelligence, and leadership under pressure. Gav is the creator of the Presilience framework, a proactive approach to leadership that helps individuals and organizations turn disruption into opportunity. We explore why traditional risk management and compliance models fall short in today’s VUCA environment, and what leaders must do differently to sustain high performance during uncertainty, disruption, and crisis. Gav shares real-world lessons from decades of advising governments, critical infrastructure, and global organizations, along with insights from psychology, decision-making, and high-performance leadership. If you’re leading a team, running a business, or navigating constant change, this conversation will challenge how you think about resilience, risk, and leadership. In this episode, we discuss: What presilience is and why it matters now The difference between surviving disruption and thriving through it How leaders make better decisions under pressure Why resilient organizations require resilient people Turning risk into opportunity in a complex, digital world Leading with confidence when certainty is gone About today’s guest: Dr. Gavriel Schneider is the CEO of the Risk2 Solution Group, a former program director in the psychology of risk, and the author of Presilience: How to Navigate Risk, Embrace Opportunity, and Build Resilience. He has trained thousands of professionals worldwide in crisis leadership,…

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