# The Good, the Bad and the Good-Bad (Movie) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113/the-good-the-bad-and-the-good-bad-movie Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113/the-good-the-bad-and-the-good-bad-movie.md Podcast: [Deborah Lebree's podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113) Published: 2026-09-13T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-good-the-bad-and-the-good-bad-movie--75100768 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75100768/default.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113/episodes/the-good-the-bad-and-the-good-bad-movie Duration seconds: 2356 ## Resource When it comes to movies we love, there are the artistic masterpieces and there are the foot-stomping crowd pleasers. But there’s another particular kind of beloved movie, the one that makes our friends groan, but that we rewatch incessantly; the one that we can quote line for line, even as we giggle at the actors’ performances; the one that we’d say is great, but that we might not say is good. These are the kinds of movies that Maya Salam, a pop culture writer at The New York Times, covers in her monthly column, The Good-Bad .This episode is a celebration of good-bad movies, timed to the release of “Practical Magic 2,” the long-awaited sequel to the 1998 cult film that Salam called “a bubbling cauldron of plot holes and tones.” Our host Rachel Abrams talks to Salam about the joys of loving a movie despite (or because of) its flaws. Then, they’re joined by The Times’s canon editor, Gilbert Cruz, and Taffy Brodesser-Akner, a Times Magazine writer, to discuss the best of good-bad cinema.On Today’s Episode: Maya Salam covers pop culture for The New York Times. Gilbert Cruz is the canon editor for The New York Times. Taffy Brodesser-Akner is a features reporter for The New York Times Magazine.Background Reading: The Good-Bad Why Loving Good-Bad Movies Feels All Good For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113/episodes/the-good-the-bad-and-the-good-bad-movie/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113/the-good-the-bad-and-the-good-bad-movie.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.