# The Courtroom Showdown Between Elon Musk and Sam Altman

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Podcast: [Deborah Lebree's podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113)
Published: 2026-05-18T09:45:00+00:00
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## Resource

For the last three weeks, a messy, dramatic battle has played out between two of the most powerful titans of tech in the world: Elon Musk and Sam Altman. As jury deliberations begin today, the technology reporter Mike Isaac takes us inside the courtroom drama and explains how a corporate dispute got extremely personal. Guest: Mike Isaac , a New York Times reporter based in the San Francisco Bay Area, covering tech companies and Silicon Valley. Background reading: Inside the courtroom circus with Elon Musk and Sam Altman. Musk lawyer’s question for Sam Altman on the stand: Are you trustworthy ? Photo: Manuel Orbegozo/Reuters, Benjamin Fanjoy/Getty Images For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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