# 1979: How the U.S. and Iran Went From Allies to Enemies

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Podcast: [Deborah Lebree's podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deborah-lebree-s-podcast-7041113)
Published: 2026-06-12T09:45:00+00:00
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## Resource

At the heart of the current U.S. war against Iran is an inconvenient truth: that the United States is, in many ways, responsible for creating the very regime it now seeks to topple. Today, Scott Anderson, a New York Times Magazine contributor, tells the story of America’s outsize role in the Islamic Revolution, and why all these years later we’re still no closer to understanding Iran. Guest: Scott Anderson , a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine. Background reading: It has been a trying time for the Islamic republic of Iran . Photo: George Tames/The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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