# Debates Never Die | Winning Ugly

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Podcast: [Debates Never Die](https://stenobird.com/podcast/debates-never-die-5731266)
Published: 2025-05-13T10:51:55+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/debates-never-die/episodes/Debates-Never-Die--Winning-Ugly-e32p81n
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## Resource

In the latest episode of Debates Never Die, we take the time to acknowledge the Barcelona's latest triumph over Real Madrid, as well as taking a look forward towards what Real Madrid will look like in the next year under Xabi Alonso. The panel also takes a look at the Europa League finalists in-depth in an attempt to make sense of their seasons and how much "success" those clubs can really claim, lastly the team provide their takes on players who succeed in certain leagues and not others and provide their understandings of why thats the case. All this and more covered in the latest episode of Debates Never Die

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