# “Senator Mark Kelly versus Pete Hegseth”

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Podcast: [Deadline: White House](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deadline-white-house-483901)
Published: 2026-05-07T21:58:50+00:00
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## Resource

Nicolle Wallace covers the feud between Senator Mark Kelly and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. Senator Kelly was part of a video where he told men and women of the military that they are allowed to ignore illegal orders. Hegseth has since moved to censure Kelly, a move that would strip Kelly of rank and pay.

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