# "It doesn’t even seem like he believes it anymore than we do"

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Podcast: [Deadline: White House](https://stenobird.com/podcast/deadline-white-house-483901)
Published: 2026-05-07T01:15:08+00:00
Episode link: https://www.ms.now/
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## Resource

Nicolle Wallace on Trump’s claims that we are living through a "golden age" in America, while more and more polls show that for most Americans the only gold they’re seeing is in the Trump White House.

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