# Talking Dateline: Out of the Darkness

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Podcast: [Dateline NBC](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dateline-nbc-945141)
Published: 2026-07-08T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline
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## Resource

Andrea Canning sits down with Josh Mankiewicz to discuss his episode, “Out of the Darkness.” In 2016, Chacey Poynter called 911 in hysterics to report that her husband, Bob, a fire captain, had been fatally shot by a stranger on a Texas country road. When police arrived at the scene, they found a frantic Chacey covered in her husband’s blood. Investigators quickly surmised that her emotion and her story were far from genuine. Andrea and Josh discuss the intensity of Chacey’s reaction, captured on police body cam, as well as the role of life insurance policies can play in murders. Later, Josh shares a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview Bob’s mother. Then, in a podcast first, Josh invites Andrea to partake in a special Talking Dateline challenge. Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM your audio or video to @DatelineNBC on social or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question could be featured in an upcoming episode. Listen to the full episode of “Out of the Darkness” here: https://swap.fm/l/outofthedarkness Listen to Josh’s episode “Poison” here: https://swap.fm/l/poison Watch Andrea fight off sweat bees here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=324321878130485

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