# Give Users the Wheel

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Podcast: [Data Skeptic](https://stenobird.com/podcast/data-skeptic)
Published: 2026-06-23T15:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://dataskeptic.com/blog/episodes/2026/give-users-the-wheel
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## Resource

What if you could simply tell a recommendation system what you want instead of relying on likes, dislikes, and watch history? Kyle Polich talks with Fuyuan Lyu about the DPR framework, which combines large language models and traditional recommender systems to give users direct control over recommendations through natural language. Together they explore how conversational interfaces could transform platforms like YouTube, TikTok, and news feeds while preserving the strengths of modern recommendation algorithms.

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