# Road Trip: Deadly Prophecy — The Children of Thunder

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Published: 2025-12-08T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Episode 396: In this episode, we learn about an enigmatic narcissistic psychopath who led the Californian cult called The Children of Thunder. Glenn Taylor Helzer, and the other leadership was comprised of his brother Justin Helzer and their follower Dawn Godman. Raised in a strict Mormon home, Taylor’s life spiralled after years of mental health trouble. By 2000, the trio had formed a cult under Taylor’s delusional leadership. That summer, they murdered Ivan and Annette Stineman, Selina Bishop (daughter of guitarist Elvin Bishop), Jennifer Villarin, and James Gamble. The crime spree and investigation shocked authorities and families, exposing how Taylor twisted faith and loyalty into violence. Episode Sources: Shackles, Ski Masks and a Power Saw — Murderous Glenn Helzer and Justin Helzer called their cult The Children of Thunder — Crime LibraryHow Not To Get Away With Murder: Glenn Helzer And The Children Of ThunderGlen Helzer | WikipediaBody Parts Identified / Disparate Tragedies' Common Ground Is Death, SuspectsGrisly clues unfolding in Delta caseBlues Guitarist's Daughter KilledMurder, Madness and Mayhem by MIke Browne20240418175434277_Cert Pet GlenTaylorHelzerPeople v. HelzerPeople v. Helzer, 317 Cal. Rptr. 3d 246 | Cal., Judgment, Law, casemine.comJustin Helzer hangs himself in prison Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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