# #432 - "Self-Replicating Swarms" AI Labs Are Lying About What's Happening | Connor Leahy

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Published: 2026-09-18T17:00:00+00:00
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Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Connor Leahy is an AI researcher & co-founder of EleutherAI. Connor helped expand access to powerful open-source language models, but later became one of the more outspoken voices warning that increasingly capable systems may outstrip society’s ability to control them. SPONSORS https://dosedaily.co/danny - Use code DANNY to get 35% off your first subscription. https://livemomentous.com - Use code DANNY for up to 35% off. https://www.amentara.com/go/dj - Use code DJP22 for 22% off your first order. https://hexclad.com/dannyjones - Get 10% off your forever cookware. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. EPISODE LINKS https://controlai.org https://x.com/NPCollapse *NEW* DJP MERCH https://dannyjonespodcast.com Get paid to make clips from the show: https://discord.com/invite/dannyjones FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Anthropic employee's AI warning 04:46 - What AI really is (it's NOT code) 08:41 - The HuggingFace incident 16:33 - The motivation behind the AI race 21:47 - AI superintelligence is our enemy 23:58 - "We don't have much time left": the point of no return 31:41 - AI chain of thought 35:11 - Brain upload cults 43:16 - How AI thinks (and hides things from you) 53:01 - Why AI would kill off humans 57:24 - It's not too late 01:01:23 - Debating American democracy 01:13:44 - Difficulty training AI models for good 01:19:08 - AI translates baby's cries 01:25:28 - Having dinner with Sam Altman 01:31:26 - Why Connor deleted all social media 01:38:09 - We have human cloning technology 01:41:29 - How we stopped nuclear weapons 01:52:08 - Largest human dose of plutonium in history 01:54:40 - UAP…

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