# Dangerous Conversations Episode #49: The PG-13 Feud

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Podcast: [Dangerous Conversations w/Doug Gilbert and Tommy Rich](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dangerous-conversations-w-doug-gilbert-and-tommy-rich-7296029)
Published: 2025-08-22T05:04:07+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/8732f946
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Duration seconds: 4343

## Resource

This week on Dangerous Conversations, Doug Gilbert is joined by Gene Jackson (with a late run-in from “Wildfire” Tommy Rich!) as they pull back the curtain on one of the most talked-about rivalries in Memphis Wrestling history: the feud with PG-13 (Wolfie D & JC Ice). Doug and Tommy revisit how the program started, why they weren’t sure it would work at first, and how it grew into one of the hottest storylines in USWA’s final years. From shaved heads to hubcaps, sympathy heat, and booking secrets, you’ll hear how two seasoned heels helped make PG-13 legit top stars in the territory. Along the way, you’ll also get road stories, behind-the-scenes tales about Randy Hales, and the hilarious chaos of trying to keep Wolfie and Jamie from fighting each other outside the ring. Topics covered: How the feud was booked to make fans believe in the underdogs Stories from the road with PG-13 The booking style of Randy Hales and how he trusted all four guys along the way Wildfire Tommy Rich’s role as “assistant booker and hatchet man” If you love Memphis Wrestling history and fun road stories, this is one you don’t want to miss! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more Dangerous Conversations every week!

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