# S3E08 The Great Management Training Experiment with Steve Thomas

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Podcast: [DangerMouth: The Innovation Station](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dangermouth-the-innovation-station-6921908)
Published: 2026-03-19T21:46:17+00:00
Episode link: https://bathmikec.podbean.com/e/s3e08-the-great-management-training-experiment/
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## Resource

Back in the heyday of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, a very interesting experiment in management training took place. Darrell and I were among the guinea pigs. The lessons learned lasted a lifetime. A few years later, our guest today, Steve Thomas (http://www.grassroutes.co.uk/), a very wise, principled, and incredibly brave, visionary educator, resurrected this protocol and added the guardrails that were so gratuitously missing from the first instantiation. Three stories, complete with wisdom from Shana the Oracle.

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