# Overcoming the Odds: She learned bankruptcy is not the end—it can be the beginning of financial mastery.

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Podcast: [Daily Inspiration: The Steve Harvey Morning Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/daily-inspiration-the-steve-harvey-morning-show-7041273)
Published: 2026-05-30T08:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1470

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