# Bogucki OUT, Torgerson IN. Plus a strange David Gravel penalty situation. | Daily 5-12-2026

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Published: 2026-05-12T19:00:00+00:00
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Another World of Outlaws rookie is out as Scott Bogucki loses his ride and Ashton Torgerson jumps into the 51. Plus a social media post raises questions about a possible points penalty for series leader David Gravel. We dig into the rulebook, the rookie shakeup, and more.

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