# Brian and Judson hookup with Mike Fails and Gina Spears and talk queer friendships, surviving trauma, the quest to bottom and messy hookups

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Podcast: [Dads And Daddies](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dads-and-daddies-6901903)
Published: 2026-03-10T07:15:00+00:00
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Brian and Judson joined by hosts of “The Big C*nty Couch” podcast, Mike Fails and drag queen Gina Spears! Mike and Gina reveal the bold choice that first solidified their now fifteen-year friendship before either was out of the closet, the secret sauce that has kept them so close for so long, how they each define their sexuality and what made them decide to create a podcast together. Each also shares personal stories including the origins of the Gina Spears persona, the challenges of the past year since Mike’s husband survived a nightmarish accident, and so much more. Together, the four respond to a Go Ask Your Dad question from a listener who wants to know how to handle hooking up with someone he likes, but whose home is a complete mess.

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