# Scattered Spiders sentenced, OpenAI builds an AI that breaks AIs, and Iran leans on ChatGPT

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Podcast: [Cybersecurity Today](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cybersecurity-today-65508)
Published: 2026-07-17T01:15:00+00:00
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## Resource

Two leading Scattered Spider members, Thaila Jubar and Owen Flowers, were sentenced to five years and six months for the 2024 Transport for London hack that knocked 148 systems offline, forced 27,000 password resets, stole customer data, and cost TfL £29 million, with wider losses estimated far higher; U.S. charges against Dubar remain unproven. Investigators also believe Russian hackers were behind last year's crippling Jaguar Land Rover attack that halted production for months and contributed to a £1.5 billion bailout, with Microsoft and multiple agencies assisting. OpenAI unveiled GPT-Red, an automated red-teaming AI for prompt injection, alongside a NIST-backed argument that finite guardrails can't be universally robust. The episode also covers ClickLock, a macOS stealer that kills apps until a password is entered, and Recorded Future's report on Iran-linked groups using ChatGPT for malware, phishing, and reconnaissance. 00:00 Headlines Kickoff 01:08 Scattered Spider Sentencing 02:57 US Charges Loom 03:29 Jaguar Land Rover Hack 04:35 GPT-Red AI Red Team 05:40 Why Guardrails Fail 06:36 ClickLock Mac Stealer 06:53 How ClickLock Spreads 07:59 Defense and Cleanup Tips 08:37 Iran Uses AI for Ops 10:30 Wrap Up and Next Show

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