# Visibility & Control of the External Identity Attack Surface. Matt Polak, VanishID & Alex Dhillon, Outtake.

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Podcast: [Cybercrime Magazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cybercrime-magazine-podcast-71258)
Published: 2026-09-17T20:10:42+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1495

## Resource

External identity is the personal data of executives, employees, and their families that attackers can find and exploit outside company systems. VanishID is tackling that exposure across the entire workforce. They've also partnered with outtake, a developer of agents that find the impersonations and scams already targeting those people. Matt Polak, founder and CEO at VanishID sat down with Alex Dhillon, CEO at Outtake, during Black Hat USA 2026 in Las Vegas. VanishID provides Agentic AI-Powered solutions for Digital Executive Protection, Workforce Protection, Family Office Protection, and Public Sector Protection. Learn about it at https://vanishid.com

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