# Culture Shapes Security. Human Risk. Jim Rutt, The Dana Foundation & Flavius Plesu, OutThink.

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Podcast: [Cybercrime Magazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cybercrime-magazine-podcast-71258)
Published: 2026-05-14T14:58:15+00:00
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## Resource

Flavius Plesu is the founder and CEO of OutThink, a revolutionary Human Risk Management Platform (SaaS) empowering CISOs by targeting the source of 90% of all data breaches: human behavior. In this episode, he joins host Charlie Osborne and Jim Rutt, CIO/CISO at The Dana Foundation, to discuss human risk and how its perception has evolved within the cybersecurity industry. Culture Shapes Security is a Cybercrime Magazine podcast series brought to you by OutThink. To learn more about our sponsor, visit https://outthink.io.

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