# CISO Confidential. Disruptive Defense. James Howley, Cummins & Bobby Ford, Doppel.

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Podcast: [Cybercrime Magazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cybercrime-magazine-podcast-71258)
Published: 2026-04-30T18:50:40+00:00
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## Resource

James Howley is the Director of Cybersecurity Governance & Risk Management at Cummins. In this episode, he joins host Scott Schober and Bobby Ford, Chief Strategy and Experience Officer at Doppel, to discuss disruptive defense, including AI's impact on phishing, implementing a successful human risk management model, and more. This episode of CISO Confidential is brought to you by Doppel. Learn more about our sponsor at https://doppel.com.

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