# Understanding CISOs as leaders, not just defenders, with PEXA's Graham Fairley

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Published: 2026-04-16T04:04:19+00:00
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## Resource

Cyber security leadership matters now more than ever, and the role of CISO is the most important piece of the puzzle. Join Cyber Daily's David Hollingworth and PEXA's cyber lead, Graham Fairley, to discover how security can become a business enabler, not an afterthought. With the Australian Cyber Summit 2026 coming up later this month, David Hollingworth, deputy editor of Cyber Daily, is joined by the CISO of property settlement platform PEXA to deep dive into how the role of CISO can be a key part of any business's growth story. From enabling business growth via secure business practices, to treating cyber security as a whole-of-business necessity rather than just something that's "nice to have" – all while navigating the advancement of AI – this essential discussion will expand your idea of what a CISO can be. Don't forget – tickets are now on sale for the Australian Cyber Summit, coming up on 30 April in Sydney. BUY YOURS NOW!

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