# COJ #183 - No 'Reasonable Woman': When Surviving Is the Crime With Author Justine van der Leun

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Published: 2026-06-09T10:14:00+00:00
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## Resource

What happens when a woman survives the violence done to her — and the state punishes her for it? This week, Investigative journalists ⁠⁠Mandy Matney⁠⁠ and ⁠Liz Farrell⁠⁠ sit down with award-winning investigative journalist Justine van der Leun to talk about her new book, Unreasonable Women: Three Stories of Violence, Imprisonment, and Extraordinary Survival. Over seven years, Justine mailed surveys to more than ten thousand incarcerated women and uncovered a pattern she calls “criminalized survival”: women who fought back against abusers, then watched the same system that failed to protect them work overtime to lock them away. Through the stories of Tanisha, Jema, and TC — and the framing case of Nikki Addimando — she exposes the “reasonable man” standard quietly stacked against every woman who ever had to defend herself. ☕ Cups Up! ⚖️ Episode References Meet the Marvelous Justine van der Leun & find where to buy her new book “Unreasonable Women” 📖 Give Justine a follow on Instagram, Threads, or TikTok 🌐 Read more about Nikki Addimando’s Case & listen to Believe Her Podcast 🎧 “Not Another Victim - I’m an Empowered Survivor Defendant” - Marissa Alexander’s TedTalk 🎞️ “Woman face harsher punishments when it comes to self-defense laws” - APA, April 1, 2025 📰 “No Choice but to Do It” - Pulitzer Center, Dec 17, 2020 📰 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Members⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also get access to all new bonus episodes, video episodes, case files, live trial coverage and exclusive live experiences with our hosts. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more and join with Promo Code "COJ25" for your first mont…

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