# Simplified Speech # 242 – Separating the art from the artist

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Podcast: [Culips Everyday English Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/culips-everyday-english-podcast-407440)
Published: 2026-02-26T22:08:00+00:00
Episode link: https://esl.culips.com/2026/02/simplified-speech-242-separating-the-art-from-the-artist/
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## Resource

In this Simplified Speech episode, Andrew and Indiana discuss a difficult question: Can you separate the art from the artist? Sometimes, famous singers, writers, or actors do bad things or share opinions that hurt other people. Andrew and Indiana talk about if it is OK to still enjoy their music, books, or movies when this happens. By listening to this conversation, you will learn useful vocabulary to talk about controversy and personal values. This lesson will help you practice listening to natural English conversations and express your own thoughts about famous people who make bad choices. The Best Way to Learn with This Episode: Culips members get an interactive transcript, helpful study guide, and ad-free audio for this episode. Take your English to the next level by becoming a Culips member. Become a Culips member now: Click here . Members can access the ad-free version: Click here. Join our Discord community to connect with other learners and get more English practice. Click here to join. Fun Fact Did you know that the popular word “canceled” actually comes from a 1991 movie? In the film New Jack City , a gangster gets angry at his girlfriend and tells someone to “cancel” her. Years later, people on social media started using this exact word to say they will stop supporting famous people who make bad choices. It shows how a simple movie line can grow into a word that everyone uses to talk about problematic artists today. Expression list problematic separate the art from the artists clear-cut blanket statement to own up to boycotting

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