# KATE BOWLER'S CRISIS COMPASS: 4 points of navigation for when life flips upside down Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/kate-bowler-s-crisis-compass-4-points-of-navigation-for-when-life-flips-upside-down Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/kate-bowler-s-crisis-compass-4-points-of-navigation-for-when-life-flips-upside-down.md Podcast: [Crisis What Crisis with Andy Coulson](https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543) Published: 2026-04-28T05:45:00+00:00 Episode link: http://www.crisiswhatcrisis.com Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/126679f9-aead-494f-964c-6c19feac7b6b.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=d55f2648-7b9e-4e35-9ce1-0a0938cc6579&aw_0_1st.episodeid=126679f9-aead-494f-964c-6c19feac7b6b Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/episodes/kate-bowler-s-crisis-compass-4-points-of-navigation-for-when-life-flips-upside-down Duration seconds: 286 ## Resource Kate Bowler is one of the most thought-provoking voices on pain and suffering you'll ever encounter. Living her dream life – married to her high school sweetheart, a baby boy, and her dream job – she was diagnosed with stage four cancer just as everything fell into place. In this bonus episode of Crisis What Crisis, I sit down with Kate to discuss her Crisis Compass. The four points of navigation that she turns to in order to help survive a crisis – a person, a habit, a comfort and a piece of advice. We'd love to know yours, let us know in the reviews... Kate is a four-time New York Times bestseller, professor at Duke University, host of the Everything Happens podcast, and author of an exceptional Substack. Her latest book, Joyful Anyway , hit the shelves this month. POWERED BY KINGSLEY NAPLEY: I know what it is to have the right legal support around you when facing crisis. Kingsley Napley are the kind of lawyers I wish more people knew about – there to help you make the right decisions, protect what matters and build real resilience when the pressure is on. This episode is powered by Kingsley Napley, visit www.kingsleynapley.co.uk for more details. CHAPTERS: 00:49 A Person – Be a Roger: the quiet librarian who showed her what service really looks like 01:47 A Habit – Praying with her son every night 02:27 A Comfort – Roadside America, a 40-foot ceramic turtle, and how she befriended Tom Holland 03:49 A Piece of Advice – "It comes undone though, so don't skip to the end" BUY KATE'S NEW BOOK: Joyful Anyway – www.amazon.co.uk/Joyful-Anyway-Finding-Delight-Impossible/dp/1037202562 FOLLOW KATE BOWLER: Instagram – www.instagram.com/katecbowler/ YouTube – www.youtube.com/@katecbowler TikTok – www.tiktok.com/@katecbowler Substack – https://katebowler.substack.com/ Podcast – E… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/episodes/kate-bowler-s-crisis-compass-4-points-of-navigation-for-when-life-flips-upside-down/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/crisis-what-crisis-with-andy-coulson-293543/kate-bowler-s-crisis-compass-4-points-of-navigation-for-when-life-flips-upside-down.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.