# 2439: When Pain Brings Opportunity | The Hawkish Fed: Interest Rates and the Real Estate Market

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Published: 2026-06-22T17:00:00+00:00
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Michael Zuber and Jason analyze the potential impact of Fed Chair Kevin Warsh on the economy, specifically regarding his hawkish stance on inflation. While some fear his policies might mirror the aggressive interest rate hikes of the 1980s, they argue that residential real estate remains a resilient asset class that can withstand higher borrowing costs. Conversely, they warn of a looming crisis in commercial and multifamily real estate, where maturing debt and rising rates are likely to trigger significant defaults. Amidst this volatility, they emphasizes the opportunity for strategic buyers to acquire distressed assets from failing syndications. Ultimately, they advocate for direct ownership of single-family homes as the most reliable path to wealth, urging investors to maintain personal control rather than relying on third-party fund managers. Key Takeaways: 0:00 Fed Chairs of the past 4:18 Kevin Warsh and the single residential housing market 8:48 Multi-family debt: pain brings opportunity 15:33 Buy your own stuff 20:00 Be in control of your investments PropertyTracker.com http://empoweredinvestor.com/ _______________________________________________________________ Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit: https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Free Class: Easily get up to $250,000 in funding for real estate, business or anything else: http://JasonHartman.com/Fund CYA Protect Your Assets, Save Taxes & Estate Planning: http://JasonHartman.com/Protect Get wholesale real estate deals for investment or build a great business – Free Course: https://www.jasonhartman.com/deals Special Offer from Ron LeGrand: https://Jason…

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