# 2427: The Data-Driven Case for Direct Real Estate Investing Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/creating-wealth-real-estate-investing-with-jason-hartman-309929/2427-the-data-driven-case-for-direct-real-estate-investing Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/creating-wealth-real-estate-investing-with-jason-hartman-309929/2427-the-data-driven-case-for-direct-real-estate-investing.md Podcast: [Creating Wealth Real Estate Investing with Jason Hartman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/creating-wealth-real-estate-investing-with-jason-hartman-309929) Published: 2026-05-25T17:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://creatingwealthpodcast.hartmannetwork.libsynpro.com/2427-the-data-driven-case-for-direct-real-estate-investing Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/creatingwealthpodcast/2427_Jason_May_25_Michael_Zuber_v1.mp3?dest-id=3486896 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/creating-wealth-real-estate-investing-with-jason-hartman-309929/episodes/2427-the-data-driven-case-for-direct-real-estate-investing Duration seconds: 1240 ## Resource In this discussion, Jason Hartman and Michael Zuber emphasize that direct residential real estate is the most historically resilient asset class, particularly during periods of high interest rates. By analyzing 54 years of market data, they argue that while transaction volumes may drop when rates rise, home prices rarely collapse due to limited supply and consistent demand. They contrast this stability with the current volatility in commercial and multifamily syndications, where many investors are losing money because of risky debt structures and high management fees. Hartman stresses the importance of maintaining control over investments to avoid the pitfalls of dishonest or incompetent fund managers. He concludes that leveraged rental properties outperform other assets like gold or stocks over the long term. Consequently, Jason and Michael urge individuals to build wealth by buying and managing their own properties rather than participating in passive investment deals. Key Takeaways: 0:00 Profiling the incredible value of real estate 10:44 Brandon Turner and multi-family property debt 17:26 Gold price history _______________________________________________________________ Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit: https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Free Class: Easily get up to $250,000 in funding for real estate, business or anything else: http://JasonHartman.com/Fund CYA Protect Your Assets, Save Taxes & Estate Planning: http://JasonHartman.com/Protect Get wholesale real estate deals for investment or build a great business – Free Course: https://www.jasonhartman.com/deals Special Offer from Ron LeGrand: _______… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/creating-wealth-real-estate-investing-with-jason-hartman-309929/episodes/2427-the-data-driven-case-for-direct-real-estate-investing/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/creating-wealth-real-estate-investing-with-jason-hartman-309929/2427-the-data-driven-case-for-direct-real-estate-investing.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.