# Become a Better Leader

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Podcast: [Creating Disney Magic](https://stenobird.com/podcast/creating-disney-magic-320348)
Published: 2026-09-15T05:48:00+00:00
Episode link: https://disneymagic.libsyn.com/become-a-better-leaders
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## Resource

"Are people getting better because they work with you?" Episode Chapters [00:56] What Lee Once Believed About Leadership [03:32] Learning Through Experience and Self-Awareness [05:34] Developing Management and Leadership Together [08:26] The Experiences That Changed Lee's Leadership [11:13] How to Become a Better Leader Being a strong manager does not automatically make someone a strong leader. Lee Cockerell, retired Executive Vice President of Walt Disney World, and Jody Maberry explore the difference between getting things done and leading people well. Lee reflects on the years when his drive for results helped his career but also damaged relationships. He shares how better time management, delegation, self-awareness, and respect changed the way he worked with people. They also discuss why leaders need people around them who are comfortable telling them the truth and the question every leader should consider: Are people getting better because they work with you? Read the blog for more from this episode. Resources CockerellStore.com The Cockerell Academy About Lee Cockerell Mainstreet Leader Jody Maberry Travel Guidance Magical Vacation Planners are my preferred travel advisors. Reach out to have them help plan your next vacation. You can reach them at 407-442-2694.

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