# Soyoung Kang on the Architecture of Value Creation Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/soyoung-kang-on-the-architecture-of-value-creation Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/soyoung-kang-on-the-architecture-of-value-creation.md Podcast: [Create or Destroy: Reimagining Marketing with Seth Matlins](https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347) Published: 2026-05-26T10:01:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/257/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1745662173.mp3?updated=1779758710 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/257/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP1745662173.mp3?updated=1779758710 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/episodes/soyoung-kang-on-the-architecture-of-value-creation Duration seconds: 4269 ## Resource Well before she was CMO, and now President, of eos Products, Soyoung Kang was an architecture student at MIT, where, she tells Seth, she learned less about buildings and more about how people move through space. She's been applying that same lens to building value creation systems ever since, across a career taking her from BCG to retail operations at Victoria’s Secret and Bath and Body Works, to leading a brand and business turnaround as eos's first CMO. The throughline is her conviction that value gets created when you design every decision around how your customer experiences what you build, and destroyed when you design around what your competitors are doing instead. Soyoung explains about why empathy is the most undervalued operating system in business, why any disconnect between how customers talk and how companies talk is an opportunity, and why she believes fresh perspective is worth 60 IQ points. From Wisdomous and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Follow the podcast on Instagram @createordestroypod and TikTok @createordestroypod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/episodes/soyoung-kang-on-the-architecture-of-value-creation/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/create-or-destroy-reimagining-marketing-with-seth-matlins-7854347/soyoung-kang-on-the-architecture-of-value-creation.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.