# To Live Is Christ, To Die Is Gain - A Final Conversation

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Podcast: [Crazy Love Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/crazy-love-podcast-1462)
Published: 2026-01-12T20:50:25+00:00
Episode link: https://crazylove.podbean.com/e/to-live-is-christ-to-die-is-gain-a-final-conversation/
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Duration seconds: 2133

## Resource

This is a sacred and deeply personal conversation between Francis and his close friend, Alan, shared with permission from the family. In this phone call, a pastor nearing the end of his earthly life reflects on suffering, peace, intimacy with God, and the hope found in Jesus Christ. What unfolds is not a polished sermon, but an honest, unscripted testimony of faith, spoken in weakness, clarity, and deep trust in God. Our hope is that these words would encourage those who are suffering, those walking with loved ones through pain, and anyone longing to understand the peace that Scripture describes as “beyond understanding.” We invite you to listen slowly, prayerfully, and with reverence. “He will never leave you nor forsake you.”

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