# #1173 Chatting with an Ex-Catholic About Catholicism - Trent Horn Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/counsel-of-trent-512442/1173-chatting-with-an-ex-catholic-about-catholicism-trent-horn Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/counsel-of-trent-512442/1173-chatting-with-an-ex-catholic-about-catholicism-trent-horn.md Podcast: [Counsel of Trent](https://stenobird.com/podcast/counsel-of-trent-512442) Published: 2026-06-17T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.catholic.com/audio/cot/chatting-with-an-ex-catholic-about-catholicism Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/cdn.catholic.com/wp-content/uploads/Chatting-with-an-Ex-Catholic-About-Catholicism.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/counsel-of-trent-512442/episodes/1173-chatting-with-an-ex-catholic-about-catholicism-trent-horn ## Resource In this episode Trent sits down with Michael Pagano of ⁨@TrueChristianMinistry⁩ to discuss his views on Catholicism. Michael’s website: True Christian Ministry Michael’s book: https://amzn.to/4a32DuS To support this channel: https://www.patreon.com/counseloftrent [NEW] Counsel of Trent merch: https://shop.catholic.com/apologists-alley/trent-horn-resources/ Be sure to keep up with our socials! https://www.tiktok.com/@counseloftrent https://www.twitter.com/counseloftrent https://www.instagram.com/counseloftrentpodcast Transcript: Michael Pagano (00:00:00): I’ve read the ... ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/counsel-of-trent-512442/episodes/1173-chatting-with-an-ex-catholic-about-catholicism-trent-horn/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/counsel-of-trent-512442/1173-chatting-with-an-ex-catholic-about-catholicism-trent-horn.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.