# #1158 I Had a Friendly Chat with Gavin Ortlund - Trent Horn

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Published: 2026-05-04T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode Trent sits down with Protestant apologist Gavin Ortlund to discuss what they agree and disagree about.

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