# #1153 I Asked a “Gay Ex-Trad” About Sexual Ethics - Trent Horn

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Podcast: [Counsel of Trent](https://stenobird.com/podcast/counsel-of-trent-512442)
Published: 2026-04-20T10:00:00+00:00
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In this conversation, Trent Horn and Cade Bradley go head-to-head on some of the hardest questions in modern sexual ethics: whether morality is grounded in natural law or human flourishing, whether affirmation actually improves outcomes, and whether data alone can settle moral debates. They also clash over same-sex relationships, public norms, schools, DSM history, transgender questions, and the limits of harm-based reasoning. To support this channel: https://www.patreon.com/counseloftrent [NEW] Counsel of Trent merch: https://shop.catholic.com/apologists-alley/trent-horn-resources/ Be sure ...

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