# Lionel Shriver on the Immigration Taboo

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Podcast: [Conversations with Coleman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/conversations-with-coleman-6685318)
Published: 2026-02-09T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Acclaimed novelist and cultural critic Lionel Shriver joins the show to discuss her provocative new book A Better Life. We talk about why immigration has become one of the most morally charged topics in public life; how good intentions collide with human nature; and why cultural change is treated as a legitimate concern for some groups but as taboo for others. We also explore the differing immigration challenges between America and Europe, the hypocrisy of open-border politics, and why fiction may be better suited than policy debates to expose the hard truths about border enforcement, assimilation, and today’s political orthodoxy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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