# Denied Then. Blessed Now: Erin Topp, $5,000, and "People"

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Podcast: [Conversations Unleashed: Rising Together](https://stenobird.com/podcast/conversations-unleashed-rising-together-6692886)
Published: 2026-03-10T09:30:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 885

## Resource

Years ago, he was told no when trying to create change. Today, he understands that not every door is meant to open—and not every room is meant to receive you. In this episode, Michael Bonner reflects on rejection, red tape, bias, growth, and learning to invest energy where it is welcomed. This isn’t about money. It’s about alignment, ownership, and becoming the kind of leader adversity prepares you to be.

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