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AI Sessions #3: The Truth About AI and the Environment
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- Nov 2, 2025
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I sat down with Henry Shevlin and Andy Masley to discuss AI’s environmental impact and why Andy thinks the panic is largely misplaced. Andy’s core argument: a single ChatGPT prompt uses a tiny fraction of your daily emissions, so even heavy usage barely moves the needle. The real issue, he argues, isn’t that data centers are wasteful—they’re actually highly efficient—but that they make visible what’s normally invisible by aggregating hundreds of thousands of individually tiny tasks in one location. And he argues that the water concerns are even more overblown, with data centers using a small fraction compared to many other industries. We also explored why “every little bit counts” is harmful climate advice that distracts from interventions differing by orders of magnitude in impact. In the second half of the conversation, we moved on to other interesting issues concerning the philosophy and politics of AI. For example, we discussed the “stochastic parrot” critique of chatbots and why there’s a huge middle ground between “useless autocomplete” and “human-level intelligence.” We also discussed Marx, “technological determinism”, and how AI can benefit authoritarian regimes. Finally, we touched on effective altruism, the problem of “arguments as soldiers” in AI discourse, and why even high-brow information environments contain significant misinformation. I enjoyed this conversation and feel like I learned a lot. Let me know in the comments if you think we got anything wrong! Links * Andy’s Weird Turn Pro Substack * Using ChatGPT Is Not Bad for the Environment - A Cheat Sheet * All the Ways I Want the AI Debate to Be Better * “ Sustainable Energy Without the Hot Air ” by David MacKay : * 80,000 Hours * On Highbrow Misinformation * George Orwell - “ You and the Atomic Bomb ”…