# AI Sessions #1: AI - A Normal Technology or a Superintelligent Alien Species? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/conspicuous-cognition-podcast-7664943/ai-sessions-1-ai-a-normal-technology-or-a-superintelligent-alien-species Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/conspicuous-cognition-podcast-7664943/ai-sessions-1-ai-a-normal-technology-or-a-superintelligent-alien-species.md Podcast: [Conspicuous Cognition Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/conspicuous-cognition-podcast-7664943) Published: 2025-09-18T18:07:19+00:00 Episode link: https://www.conspicuouscognition.com/p/ai-sessions-1-ai-a-normal-technology Audio file: https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/173951885/419b9f13971a8ebd9d517128da2d56b6.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/conspicuous-cognition-podcast-7664943/episodes/ai-sessions-1-ai-a-normal-technology-or-a-superintelligent-alien-species Duration seconds: 4598 ## Resource Is artificial intelligence (AI) a “normal technology” or a potentially “superintelligent” alien species? Is it true, as some influential people claim , that if anyone builds “super-intelligent” AI systems, everyone dies? What even is superintelligence”? In this conversation, the first official episode of Conspicuous Cognition’s “AI Sessions”, Henry Shevlin and I discuss these and many more issues. Specifically, we explore two highly influential perspectives on the future trajectory, impacts, and dangers of AI. The first models AI as a “ normal technology ”, potentially transformative but still a tool, which will diffuse throughout society in ways similar to previous technologies like electricity or the internet. Through this lens, we examine how AI is likely to impact the world and discuss deep philosophical and scientific questions about the nature of intelligence and power. The second perspective presents a very different possibility: that we may be on the path to creating superintelligent autonomous agents that threaten to wipe out the human species. We unpack what "superintelligence" means and explore not just whether future AI systems could cause human extinction but whether they would “want” to. Here are the primary sources we cite in our conversation, which also double up as a helpful introductory reading list covering some of the most significant current debates concerning artificial intelligence and the future. Main Sources Cited: * Narayanan, Arvind and Sayash Kapoor (2025). "AI as Normal Technology." * Yudkowsky, Eliezer and Nate Soares (2025). If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All . * Kokotajlo, Daniel, Scott Alexander, Thomas Larsen, Eli Lifland, and Romeo Dean (2025). "AI 2027." * Alexander, Scott and the AI Futures Proje… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/conspicuous-cognition-podcast-7664943/episodes/ai-sessions-1-ai-a-normal-technology-or-a-superintelligent-alien-species/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/conspicuous-cognition-podcast-7664943/ai-sessions-1-ai-a-normal-technology-or-a-superintelligent-alien-species.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.