# What Happens When Pornography Use Keeps Escalating?

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Podcast: [Consider Before Consuming](https://stenobird.com/podcast/consider-before-consuming-86502)
Published: 2026-09-16T09:00:56+00:00
Episode link: https://redcircle.com/shows/352266a5-0ec0-4cd9-9114-12b5a62c09e6/episodes/db62cfc4-1f81-45df-aa31-94defb063f3f
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## Resource

*This episode includes discussions of child sexual abuse material (CSAM). Listener discretion is advised. Kellye Netz is a detective sergeant who has spent years investigating sexual offenses against children and interviewing individuals arrested for possessing child sexual abuse material (CSAM). Through those investigations, she says she has repeatedly encountered offenders whose behavior did not begin with CSAM, but progressed after years of pornography consumption and increasingly extreme content. How can pornography use escalate into more extreme material? What do offenders say about how they ended up viewing CSAM? And how has technology changed the way illegal sexual content is accessed and investigated? In this episode, Kellye shares what she has observed firsthand, including why some offenders seem relieved when they're finally caught, how mainstream social platforms can become part of the pathway to illegal material, and what her work has taught her as a parent about talking openly with kids about pornography and online safety Episode Resources: Podcast: Consider Before Consuming Ep. 159: Dr. Alexandra Bailey Article: Letter From a Sex Offender: I Went from Watching Adult Hardcore Porn to Kids Get Help: Join Relay Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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